In opposing Donald Trump, Liz Cheney has been largely cast out of the Republican Party, despite her family’s deep history. So does her endorsement and campaigning with Kamala Harris carry any weight with persuadable voters who are not already committed to Harris? Mark Leibovich, staff writer for the Atlantic, and Ben Wikler, chair of the Wisconsin Democratic Party, talk with Jen Psaki about why Cheney’s support for Kamala Harris matters.